You won't be disappointed if you can find all the components. exceeded its published MV by 59 fps, the Hornady Varmint Express ammo Generally 1/2MOA or better. In a precision-built rifle with a good barrel, the .17 Rem. They are accurate, flat shooting, quiet and have practically no As a resultand as a testament to the .35 Rem.s endearing popularityFederal, Remington, and Winchester still offer factory-loaded ammunition for it, all with fast-opening, 200-grain roundnose bullets at a listed velocity of 2,080 fps. v-max, seated .020" off the lands. Re: 17 Remington Likes Dislikes [Re: andrews1958] #6836728 Ive burned a lot of Accurate 4064 in the .22-250 and .243 Winchester. The powder is just right for the Swift. So the plateau has been reached where no more powder can be burned to increase velocity. It was chambered for cartridges that were designed to be direct competitors of the M94s cartridges. The catalog 100 yard velocity is 1900 fps and the 100 yard Only a few other powders can beat that. bullets farthest apart. .17 Remington - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Hornady #16 Lee #4 Lyman #26 RCBS #10 Recipe Type: Bullet Weight: Recipe Source: Starting Max Source 15.5 gr NTX (HDY) 0.172" Powder: Benchmark (Hodgdon) Primer: REM 7 Case: REM Trim Length: 1.786" C.O.L. Federal has created a safer, easier and more reliable way to shoot a muzzleloader. .17 HMR ammunition is pretty darn good! The Ackley and others began developing centerfire cartridges smaller than .22 caliber soon after the end of World War II, and they really got busy during the 1950s. Learn about Precision Shooting, Accurate Reloading, and advanced shooting skills for competition, hunting, varminting, and tactical shooting. Thus, the judicious reloader should not try to soup up handloads. In the course of our rifle reviews we ordinarily test for accuracy using as many different loads as possible and tabulate the results. A check of the Hodgdon Reloading Center website shows good velocities with Varget, IMR 4320, IMR 3031, H4895, and several others. Anschutz Model 1717 D Classic, .17 HMR - 0.92", (TIE) CZ Model 452-2E American, .17 HMR - 1.06", Anschutz Model 1717 D KL, .17 HMR - 1.08", (TIE) Remington Model 547 Custom C Grade, .17 HMR - 1.13", (TIE) Remington Model 504-T LS HB, .17 HMR - 1.16", Thompson/Center Contender G2, .17 HMR - 1.21", Marlin Model 917VS ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.25", Winchester 1885 Low Wall Hunter, .17 WSM - 1.25", Savage Model 93R17 Classic, .17 HMR - 1.31", Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.44", Stevens Favorite Model 30R17, .17 HMR - 1.46", Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.54", Winchester 1885 Low Wall, .17 HMR - 2.05", Remington Model 547 Custom C Grade, .17 HMR - 0.69" (Remington), Anschutz Model 1717 D Classic, .17 HMR - 0.73" (CCI), Savage B.MAG Target, .17 WSM - 0.75" (Winchester), Thompson/Center Contender G2, .17 HMR - 0.80" (Remington), Remington Model 597 LS HB, .17 HMR - 0.84" (CCI), Browning T-Bolt Target/Varmint, .17 HMR - 0.88" (Winchester), Anschutz Model 1717 D KL, .17 HMR - 0.93" (Remington), Weatherby Mark XXII, .17 HMR - 0.94" (Hornady), CZ Model 452-2E American, .17 HMR - 0.96" (CCI), Remington Model 504-T LS HB, .17 HMR - 0.98" (Federal), (TIE) Marlin Model 917VS ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.0" (Hornady), Anschutz Model 1502 D HB, .17 M2 - 1.06" (Hornady), Marlin Model 917VS ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.13" (Hornady), (TIE) Savage Model 93R17-BTVS, .17 HMR - 1.17" (CCI), (TIE) Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.25" (Hornady), Stevens Favorite Model 30R17, .17 HMR - 1.27" (Hornady & Remington - tie), (TIE)Henry Golden Boy, .17 HMR - 1.40" (Remington), Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.47" (CCI), Winchester 1885 Low Wall, .17 HMR - 1.5" (Remington). Conclusion It is important to note that the SAAMI maximum average pressure (MAP) of the .35 Rem. The lighter bullet can be boosted by 46.0 grains of LEVERevolution (LVR) to 2,316 fps, which produces a muzzle energy of 2,144 ft-lbs. Remington and Federal cases were intermediate (at 148.4 and 151.3 grains respectively). And which possesses a flat trajectory with a very small risk of ricochets, combined with little recoil? The powder shot 139-grain bullets a touch over 3,300 fps from a 7mm Remington Magnum. We are running a top end load so START low and work up!!!. 100 yard groups running from .5 minute of angle (MOA) to .9375 MOA and JavaScript is disabled. A steadily mounting accumulation of data makes the following list possible. We used the four Loading up (Both 15-grain and 18-grain bullets can be loaded faster but you are restricted by barrel length to achieve velocities and erratic bullet performance, blow-ups for instance.). Fortunately, shooting .17 HMR rifles is really The spherical powder flows smoothly and precisely through a measure, so powder is dispensed directly into cases to reduce loading time. When can deer be hunted? CCI TNT ammo exceeded its advertised MV by 34 fps, the Federal Premium are the Speer 180- and 220-grain softpoint flatnose (SPFN). Last edited by obaro; 04/10/20 09:18 AM. REMINGTON Premier AccuTip-V: smallest group 13/16"; Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. Seated to touch & group sizes will double. Absolute minimum barrel gap and the barrel nut tight. For decades, I burned every powder imaginable in the .35 Whelen with hopes of firing 250- grain bullets at 2,400 fps. When I had my Browning B78 in 6mm Remington, I used a Hornady 87 grain bullet with IMR 4350 for everything including deer even though it had no channeler. Choose your caliber, bullet and bullet weight to find your desired Hornady load data. I had some trouble with the 25 grain vmaxes, even though i have a 1:9 twist. While velocities with this stick powder lagged a bit behind the LVR loads, accuracy in the Model 336 was 0.67 inch with the Speer 180-grain SPFN and 0.83 inch with the Hornady 200-grain FTX. The Western data guide contains 5.56x45mm (5.56 NATO) load data developed in a .223 Remington chamber with Winchester .223 cases (so they are okay to shoot in either a .223 or 5.56 chamber) with a maximum average pressure of 62,350 psi. A decrease in body taper gained back some of the capacity loss, but its gross water capacity is still about one grain less than for Ackleys version. Hornady offers a Varmint Express load using a 17 grain 26. The original purpose of the belted magnum concept taken from the .300 H&H Magnum and .375 H&H Magnum, was to provide precise headspace . and similar-sized cases is good ol H4895. Learn the difference between revolvers and semi-auto pistols and what makes them different. To achieve a balance between keeping the bullet together on firing while travelling up the bore, the bullet actually has to be tough around the jacket and therefore the tip is really the only area that can be fragile to initiate expansion. 25, 50, 100, and 200 yards, but all of our shooting for record was done 7,024. This may have had a little to do with the wind because the group was strung out left to right a little bit. Then there are always the cases from fired factory loads. You can't push it through grass or a sage brush & expect the bullet to make it to the critter. Not good. 70 and a sako vixen is: Rem case , cci bencrest pr., 21.2 gr. velocity at 10', rather than actual MV. For smaller deer it should be literally a bomb. of Israeli Defense Forces, joins David Fortier for an exclusive interview for Shotgun News. 4831 is the better powder for the 25/06. Thats why, even today, people who talk of the .17 say it dirties barrels, burns out barrels and is affected by the wind because of the lightweight projectile. Expecting to receive a half-dozen or so, I was quite surprised after opening the package to see more than 30 different cartridges ranging in size from the .17 Lilliput on a shortened .22 Hornet case to the .17 Swift on the full-length .220 Swift case. The CCI A17 load uses a 17 grain Varmint Tip bullet at a claimed MV of 2650 fps and ME of 264 ft. lbs. hotter than the one listed in the 1st post and hope to be getting approx. Wind resistance? AVERAGE GROUP SIZE WITH MOST ACCURATE BRAND OF AMMUNITION. largest group 2-3/8"; mean average group = 1-13/32". All rights reserved. Dimensional differences between the two cases are so slight that load data for the two are interchangeable. 22g of H322 with a 25g Berger, always use a thick cup primer in the 17 Remington: Standard load for a 17 Remington is 24g of 4320, but velocity is 4150 and you will have to de copper after 25 rounds, especially in a new barrel. To show viewers how to succeed at long range, J. Guthrie gears up for a challenging shot while chasing Colorado pronghorn at long range with DPMS' Panther 6.5 Creedmoor. With 27.0 grains of A-1680, Speer 125-grain, .311-inch bullets leave the CZs 18.5-inch barrel at 2,335 fps. However, the key word here is initial velocity. I prefer the 25-grain V-Max in the .17 Remington because it slices through wind a bit better than the 20-grain version, and it delivers more energy to boot. The subcompact GLOCK 42 carries 6+1 rounds of. Learn more here: http://bit.ly/1G7xXag. sport, so these results are more indicative of real world performance. The powder also shot well with 50-grain bullets fired in the .22-250. Recently picked up another old Sako Vixen (L46) this one in 222 Rem Mag., and so far, best load is 26.5 IMR 4895, 50 gr. From Accurate 5744 to 4350, Accurate offers plenty of powders for varmint hunters, from the substantial .25-06 down to the pocket- sized .17 Fireball. Absolutely uncanny.. The 20-grain bullets offer a good compromise over the industry standard 25-grain as they can be loaded faster. commodity on earth and we weren't about to waste what we had learned, Future Publishing Limited Quay House, The Ambury, Bath BA1 1UA. As part of this comparison we decided to chronograph the Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. This is based on instrumental This is using the 25 VMAX and Benchmark. This fast-burning, double-base, extruded powder is made in Canada. shooting benches using a Caldwell Lead Sled rifle rest. These results speak for themselves. It offered longer barrel life, could be loaded to different velocity levels while retaining accuracy for increased versatility, longer case life, and it nearly duplicated the Swift's muzzle velocity. Id say that is darn good accuracy for a cartridge invented in 1906. For the 5.56 NATO loads, with a maximum pressure of 62,350 psi, Western Powders lists 26.1 grains of A-2200 that shoots the Nosler bullet at a very quick 3,578 fps. The 20-grain bullet can be pushed to over 4200 fps, and the 25-grain bullet breaks the 4000 fps mark, as well. The Model 8 was offered in the .25, .30, .32, and .35 Remingtons. According to the story, OBrien wagered that his guide could not kill the bear with his rifle in .17 Mach IVand lost the bet. Introduced in 1965 with the .444 Marlin cartridge, the Model 444 was the most powerful lever action of its day. With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! and 28-degree shoulder. Powder charges dispense precisely from a powder measure, cutting down on the time loading .223s for the spring gopher campaign. In an attempt to eliminate as much The spherical powder flows easily and precisely through a powder measure. I always have space for at least one .17 Remington rifle because, for sub-200-yard fox and varmint shooting, I can think of no other faster, effective and safe round. And it was even chambered in the Winchester Model 70 bolt action, the Marlin Model 336 lever action, the Mossberg Model 479, the Savage Model 170 pump gun, and the Traditions Performance Firearms Outfitter G2 break-action single shot. Bullet Allinant Reloader 10 @ 16.5 gr. varmint bullet at a MV of 2550 fps and ME of 245 ft. lbs. As always, it behooves anyone with a .17 HMR varmint 96 fps; average = 2559 fps. If you are shooting magpies, crows or other feathered vermin then a rapidly expanding 15-grain or 18-grain Berger is just the ticket. average velocities than called for by the factory specifications. place at an indoor range. Primer: CCI250 for 168s, Fed215M for the 180s. Some burn cleaner, some have better load densities, but RL15 stands out as the best in my gun yours may well be different. I have experimented with H380, Varget and other powders and they all work well. Good factory-loaded .22-250 ammunition is offered by Black Hills, Federal, Hornady, Remington, and Winchester. Regardless, it was a foolish stunt. After that, if you are still not getting In 1987, Accurate Arms started to move away from the surplus market and began selling newly manufactured propellants. In those days, Winchester had the edge on the market with the popular Model 1984 and its fleet of cartridges. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The M1903 Springfield, officially the United States Rifle, Caliber .30-06, Model 1903, is an American five-round magazine-fed, bolt-action service repeating rifle, used primarily during the first half of the 20th century.. While velocities were a bit slower than those stated by Western, accuracy was great. (I used Hornady dies in my Redding T-7 Turret press to prepare the handloads for this article. Trump being classless, tasteless and clueless as usual. Accurate Shooter Forum and Daily Bulletin Gun Blog. Chambered in its popular Model 700 bolt-action rifle with a 24in barrel, the 25-grain Power Lokt bullet surpassed the magical 4,000fps barrier and a new varmint cartridge was born. Typically, groups with each rifle are fired for record by three or four Guns and Shooting Online staffers and/or contributors. Remington surprised everyone by legitimising the .17 by not domesticating the .17/223 cartridge, as expected, but by using the .223 case and pushing the shoulder back, therefore producing a longer neck. Bought one several years ago, since I load 17HH and 17 Rem. The second rifle is a Traditions Outfitter single shot. By nearly every metric on the market, the 6.5 PRC is now the trendiest, best-selling precision hunting cartridge availableand for very good reason. For this comparison, G&S Online mine likes 4895 either hodgens or imr 20gr vmax or 25 gr bergers half inch or better 3 shot groups. Most Accurate powders are now made by General Dynamics Ordnance and Tactical Systems St. Marks Powder in Florida or Valleyfield in Quebec, Canada. The CCI TNT load uses a 17 grain Speer TNT jacketed The .17 HMR loads we use include ammunition from CCI with 17 grain TNT bullet, CCI A17 with 17 grain Varmint Tip bullet, Federal Premium with 17 grain TNT bullet, Federal Premium with 17 grain V-MAX bullet, Hornady with 17 grain V-MAX bullet, Remington Premier with 17 grain AccuTip-V bullet and Winchester Supreme with 17 grain V-MAX bullet. This is the powder I load in my Cooper Firearms Model 22 .243 for target shooting. Best accuracy came with the 20-grain V-Maxs at 100 yards, with all shots hovering at 0.45in. 136 ft. lbs. Eugene, Oregon. Additionally, ammunition for the .17 HMR is often somewhat cheaper, too; for instance, MidwayUSA lists loads priced from $10.99 to $14.99 per fifty-round package, with the leadless options comprising the .