Serial number 116501 with matching saya. Where should I look for records or production date/serial number guides? Is the tang (nakago) signed? People can scoff at paranoia as much as you like but the simple fact is they are getting better, whether through study of originals or reading well intentioned post. I can't get over the prices on these nowadays.. crazy, https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-WWII-Japanese-NCO-OFFICERS-SWORD-WITH-MATCHING-NUMBERS/253234351978?hash=item3af5f18f6a:g:wxsAAOSwAHtZ94Dm. I'm not an expert on Japanese swords, so I'll be glad with the maximum information on this Type 95. By the way, the MILLIONS of copy ROLEXS have not slowed the demand for the real thing, or stopped prices rising. to another sword / scabbard. Celebrating the Past, Present and Future of Navy Cryptology, Official site for National Guard marksmanship training & competitions. or old wood sticks. Be the first to know of our latest discoveries and exclusive offers. a "real" sword and certainly not an antique. Gun magazine laws, concealed weapons laws, laws governing new made display guns, airsoft guns, blank fire guns, and other items vary greatly by nation, state and locality. This example has a matching serial number 55250 on both the blade and the throat of the scabbard. I liked the look of the Type 32 but all I've found was deepeeka. About 80,000 of the Ko sabers were produced between 1899 and 1936, with the lowest reported serial number being 1175 and the highest one being 83390. (too 2- no screw is used as per T-95 usual fashion on the hilt but a special screw assembly located on the pommel and holed for the sword knot. Dan. I have NO idea what that belt hanger is supposed to be. It is terrible. Amounts shown in italicized text are for items listed in currency other than U.S. dollars and are approximate conversions to U.S. dollars based upon Bloomberg's conversion rates. Here is a decent fake Stu W. posted over on WAF. Man just crazy all the fakes and how great this sight is about telling how to spot them .many thanks for posting to help us out. from China Most WW II era blades are not sharpened all the down to the habaki (collar). I'll continue to post where I find different examples. Mauser 99 in post 15 look to the scabbard throat and you should see the brass sleeve visible.Also with the MountCastle example the paint still looked fresh in the overly large fake serial number on the throat..Shame really because the one that is on the site with a painted hilt but marked sold is a real one,and nice too ! By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. This is a very scarce and important very early production Japanese Army Type 95 NCO Sword. swords. Slowly improving. I do not think they will be able to make a perfect fake as there are too many small details right down to the materials used. The serial number looks very short by the size of the painted over area - maybe too short. The saya/scabbard number should be on the top of the scabbard, where it's covered when the sword is sheathed. 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I do share Greys sentiment though. I was so stupid to have some and sold it - for better swords. Sword steel of the army standard , Blade length: 83.6, Curvature: 1.35, machine made, tempering in oils, with a fuller and no Hamon, Overall length: 100.2, Made in the Tky Artillery Arsenal Type 32 Gunt is a government supply noncommissioned officer sword enacted in 1889 (August 23, Meiji 32). Japanese swords will have a visible grain in the steel of the blade. Sincerely, Eugene Quote vajo Gold Tier 5.8k Location:Germany / Bavaria Name: Chris Sch. Grain does not determine age. None of the replicas have this feature. Imperial Japanese Army (IJA) Type 95 NCO Shin Gunto. These items are of A real shooter with aim. Swords with carved bone handles and scabbards are About eBay; Does anyone know if theres a production dating list for the different manufacturers of the type 95 nco swords ? As we have a grater passion for and preservation in mind rather then profits as a dealer does. There is not much more complicated (and valuable) as ROLEX watches. But machine made swords like this one do not have the accuracy of manufacturing that enable the Habaki to perform such a function. Used. Cheers to Dan for bringing it to my attention. These items are purchased for the quality of the carving only. If there are serial numbers stamped in the blade, it is a machine made Lets hope the guys that make the fakes arent reading all this and learning what to improve. The Americans destroyed a large number of swords by dumping them into the ocean or by melting them. Identification The prices go higher and higher and they will copy better and better to take part on this. Free shipping. Your link has been automatically embedded. You may severely injure yourself and/or damage the sword. I offered to send photos or provide opinions from experienced collector's. Does the blade show a true temper line (hamon)? Some older (Shinshinto) For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. Older swords will have more rusted tangs, ranging from brown to smooth deep black rust for the oldest swords. The real tsukas have crisp detail, and the fakes always seem not-crisp. 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I completely agree with Bill here. I very much doubt that it would matter, but even someone with a repro would be able to use that information to create a fake. Steel is magnetic - aluminum is not. Clear editor. Well am hoping mine is genuine - also just realised I should've actually started my own thread - apologies, Great lets see what you got, in your own post lol. Etchings. Akunin Some of these bone swords will have very low grade metal mountings, commonly with the Tokugawa mon incised into or embossed on the mountings. more then I would pay but I'm grinch, https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/WW2-Japanese-Type-95-NCO-Sword/222687760837?hash=item33d93991c5:g:KZAAAOSwIJlZ6-vP, another version, price is abit high but a honest piece, https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Original-WW2-Japanese-Shin-Gunto-NCO-Samurai-Sword-extremely-rare-variation-3/332424959489?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D48795%26meid%3D4f20fff958304da4af55f1ba88fb7e90%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D222687760837&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851. This example has a matching serial number 55250 on both the blade and the throat of the scabbard. That is not true. military type swords are also being reproduced today. June 23, 2016 in Military Swords of Japan. Blade is 26 1/4 inches long, with an overall length of 36 1/4inches. One, they aren't in the correct range. To a novice who buys on impulse..then asks in the forums.you'll get BURNT. But as I have been at this for a while, I'm seeing how much better the reproductions are getting, and I realize that every bit of help they can get by reading posts like this, helps them make their fakes even better. Sword canes (Shikomi-zue) mostly have very low grade blades. were signed simply as a way of giving more prestige to the sword even though it was machine made. This sword is actually pictured on page 191 of Dawson . Blade is 26.5 inches long, with an overall length of 36.5 inches. I opted for the lower end of the market and went for a Type 95 (this is all new to me and only found this out through google) NCO Shin Gunto. Most sword canes were produced in the late 19th Century - early 20th Century. That is an important part of identifying the authenticity of an NCO. Second the Font isn't even close. An excellent example of a World War II Type 95 Japanese Army NCO sword that was obviously carried in the field of combat operations. Is the blade sharpened all the way to the base where it joins the hilt? I avoided buying into German WW2 helmets because of the fakes out there and now I've entered into another minefield. It's a huge tell tale. The serial number should be near the bottom of the blade, just above the habaki. Everything for sale on ima-usa.com is completely legal to own, trade, transport and sell within the United States of America. lonely panet. Bone tanto and swords (see below) fall into this group. Hope he listens. Of the eight army arsenals active in the war only Kokura, Tokyo First and Nagoya were involved in the Type 95 program. China has a rising group of wealthy individuals who are buying up cars, gold, realeatate, antiques and art at an alarming rate. This prevents the sword from falling when the soldier is running. Have always thought the comments about not tipping off the forgers are just plain silly.I still do.The image of some rough factory in China where they are turning these outand some guy on a computer somewhere shouting out in Chinese into the factory "Hey guys! In my searches, I've compiled a list of things that (usually Chinese) reproductions get wrong. Make the gap between the arsenal marks less! Even should they be able to reproduce the sword exactly, it is not just that one should be looking at, but a series of common features in patina that are universal to genuine, old NCO. NCO copper tsuka (handle) that is actually painted on top of the handle, I have not seen that before. During the WW II era, many machine made blades It is something I very much dread, having to carefully vet every sword I see, but that's what happens when something increases in value at a steady rate each and every year. It is said that during battle soldiers would not use the ring but rather would stick the sword through the belt the same way as the Samurai in ancient times. The grip wrapping and menuki are cast-formed. There are old sword blades which have no visible grain (muji hada); however, the presence of grain does World War 2 Historian, Relic Hunter and expert in identification of WW2 relics. Sometimes they get irate. I recently took the plunge and made my first Japanese sword purchase. Your email address will not be published. The Americans destroyed a large number of swords by dumping them into the ocean or by melting them. If the tsuka can be dismanteld from sword with out removing the sarute and barrel, its a fake! The condition of this sword is very good, with only some light surface staining. Today I checked, just in case the sword was pulled from sale, and lo and behold there is a 'rare copper handle' now listed, clearly of the same manufacturer. I'm not an expert on Japanese swords, so I'll be glad with the maximum information on this Type 95. Sponsored. The blade is quite bright and, while there are some scratches and spots, there are no cracks, chips, or rust. Close up and of kissaki and bohi termination is a must. doing. A real one would also be fine, but is too expensive for me. Etchings. Shamsy In my earlier years, I would have rattled off a long list of the things I see wrong, where the veterans would remain silent. Mission Ready, Qualified & Competent, On Time Execution! You cannot paste images directly. sword clubs in many cities. There are stories that the small papers between the handle wrap (ito) and Referencing Carlo's post from last year, I also used to collect some German (for MANY years) and was quite confident in my ability to spot fakes, but I admit the quality is now off the charts (especially helmets) and it forced me totally out of that hobby. I think it's always worth spending the extra time to study these "high end fakes/copies" because they are getting better. Further We assume no liability associated with misuse of our products. like many dealers, there main concern is profit, regardless of the piece being a reproduction. DO NOT UNWRAP THE HANDLE! The great majority of these swords are made of carved bone, not ivory. I need attribution not for sale, but for museum exhibit. Sorry for the bad news. Then the horror is the "Ko" stamp! once told the facts they simply. Benefits CHARITY. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 921(a)(16) defines antique firearms as all guns manufactured prior to 1899. I searched into the rest of the Japanese items on the site. Thanks sean, Your email address will not be published. Also, the tang on this is full length, with two holes. Based on my research the sword meets all the criteria of an authentic WWII Shin-Gunto Type 95 with one exception which is confusing me. However, just because the blade is steel does not mean it is a genuine Japanese sword as many modern replicas are made with steel blades. Here is my last IJA type 95 copper handle nco sword the I own. Buy It Now. Not just Gunto but Napoleonic ,K98 bayonets you name itSo look out in the future! The Americans destroyed a large number of swords by dumping them into the ocean or by melting them. Sorry Its not even a good fake. WWII Japanese Army Type 95 Tokyo Arsenal NCO Shin-Gunto Sword $ 895.00 A World War II Type 95 Japanese Army NCO sword on which the sword blade and scabbard both have matching serial numbers. Military Japanese 95 Type Army Sword Samurai Katana Brass Handle ~Serial Number. kink one side but is overall very good for its age; the locking Overall a very nice condition WW2 Type 95 NCO Katana that will appreciate in value over the coming years. They are unfortunately getting pretty good now. is signed, that it must be hand made. remounted in samurai type mounts by collectors. Even the once "lowly" type 95 NCO sword has started to command high prices. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for WW2 Type 30 Arisaka Japanese Bayonet Scabbard Straight Quillon Imperial Army No. Didn't want to explain to much, because that sword copys get better and better. Required fields are marked *. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Ivory has a distinctive grain. It will have shrunk and is likely frayed and worn. You can't sell weapons on ebay.de it is forbidden and ebay close your account. There are a few small nicks on the edge of the blade, but they are hard to photograph. There are collectors in China, and if they need more, they can buy them. It is said that during battle soldiers would not use the ring but rather would stick the sword through the belt the same way as the Samurai in ancient times. Short fuller. iaito (iai practice sword)? The grip still retains much of its brown paint, being approximately 70% intact, and the golden yellow paint on the cherry blossom menuki is approximately 50% intact. Display as a link instead, (Do not remove the rust). "Ninja swords" are a Hollywood fiction. How the sword is mounted has nothing to do with its age or authenticity. All correct! collectors often have a higher knowledge base then dealers, and a higher respect for items and there history. $159.50. The Type 95 NCO sword is similar in appearance to officers Type 94 and Type 98 Shin-gunt military swords, but is made of lower quality materials, most notably its hilt, which is made from metal and the scabbard was similar to that of the Type 32 with a prominent drag. If the peg (mekugi) or screw holding the handle (tsuka) onto the blade can be removed and the handle safely removed (use care not to damage the handle or blade - the complete handle should slide off the end of the tang), examination of the tang (nakago) can tell much about the age of the blade. / scabbard has quite a bit of its original war time browning and & valuations. But a small percentage made its way back to the United States and into the collector market. Murasame Katana L6 Steel Hand Forged Steel. I am not sure why the serial numbers are covered? of no interest to Nihonto collectors other than perhaps as an example of how poorly made a blade Your previous content has been restored. I have been searching for years for a good reproduction of a Japanese Shin-gunto NCO sword. Sword canes (Shikomi-zue) mostly have very low grade blades. Any so called "ninja sword" is pure fantasy. Most sword canes were produced in the late 19th Century - early 20th Century. Many people tend to believe that if a sword General McCarthur did not want the general population to be able to arm again. For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. the mounts can be interesting with hidden, spring loaded, pop out guards. It's a reissued one like one in Fuller & Gregory's book. . National Guard Marksmanship Training Center. I probably say this way too much BUT to flog a dead horse, the NCOs have a ton of small variations between subcontractors and between batches themselves, so just something to keep in mind. All NCO swords were numbered. And even if your intentions are completely legitimate, the "bad guys" are still out there and could read this post. Here is my last IJA type 95 copper handle nco sword the I own. Whether a blade is Vice versa, antique blades are occassionally found WW II era machine made swords have an etched temper line, not a true temper line (hamon) made The copper ferrule has three stamps . Tokyo First Arsenal blade numbers. The saya in the hilt. I agree. Paste as plain text instead, Replica swords and many The first question to be answered - is it a real sword or a modern replica or an Maybe he is just one of the many merchants capitalising on a class of people with more money than they know what to do with. We assume no liability associated with misuse of our products. . Sword Shows, Events, Community News and Legislation Issues, Military Swords of Imperial Japan - Ohmura San, Nihonto-Japanese Swords as Art - John Eliyas, The Token Society of GB - Scotland Branch, Nanka Token Kai - Southern California Japanese Sword Society, Japanese Sword Society of the United States, The Society for the Promotion of Japanese Sword Culture (NBSK), The Japanese Sword Society of the United States, Nederlandse Tken Vereniging - Netherlands, San Francisco Nipponto Society *caution. Never use force to remove the handle.) Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. They are referred to as "hocho tetsu" (kitchen steel) - a most derogatory term in sword circles. A new sword was pointed out to me recently which is very well made and in fact at first glance addresses a lot of the issues with obvious fakes. All Rights Reserved. The machine-made blade is 26 inches long. Learn how your comment data is processed. Cut-out version brass tsuba. The above items are only a general guide. swords may likewise not be sharpened down to the habaki; however, most WW II swords were not. Real swords only had flat-head screws. This would fool most entry level guys. WAY too big, wrong place and the square imprint around it. Essentially, the blade has the Nagoya factory stamp next to the serial number however the Fuchi appears to only have one stamping . Matching serial numbers 31123. Around $1.000. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The painted handle and scabbard color look very nice, even though there were still some parts not correct compared to the real one, but it will fool a lot of people. This fine example is a genuine WWII Japanese Type 95 NCO Samurai Sword or katana with aluminum handle construction and machine made blade. real, good condition, price is abit high. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Carved bone and carved ivory sword mountings almost always have untempered, soft steel blades. The grip wrapping and menuki are cast-formed. The best place to look is at the serial Numbers. Matching serial numbers 31123. The early serial number shows this sword saw service throughout The painted handle and scabbard color look very nice, even though there were still some parts not correct compared to the real one, but it will fool a lot of people, like many dealers, there main concern is profit, regardless of the piece being a reproduction. Bruce has politely written exactly what my reply would have been. When in doubt, check the blade with a magnet. Original Item: Only One Available. The end of WWII marked the beginning of the sword ownership ban in Japan. You can post now and register later. It now takes an expert to tell the difference between a Chinese $25 copy ROLEX and the real deal, right down to the automatic movement. Most soldiers and citizens surrendered their swords to the American occupying forces. Every musket, rifle, display machine gun, machine gun parts set or gun sold by IMA, Inc is engineered to be inoperable according to guidelines provided by the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF). . IMA works diligently to be aware of these ever changing laws and obeys them accordingly. Please quote item reference S72 (0690). The metal of the scabbard has the patina of old iron. In Germany you got now only fake Gunto. This is a fake for at least two obvious reasons : 1- copper hilted type 95's, or 1st generation T-95's are very scarce and have only 4 digits serial numbers (around 6000 produced). There are some Chinese replicas of these out there, however this sword is definitely genuine. If you cannot see this grain or do not know what to look for, assume it is carved bone, not ivory. I din't know why the NCO swords are asked so strong. All the best. NEVER CLEAN THE TANG OF A JAPANESE SWORD OR TAMPER WITH IT IN ANY WAY!!! IMA works diligently to be aware of these ever changing laws and obeys them accordingly. Typically it is for food and baby goods and it is actually a livelihood. On newer swords the file marks on the tang will be sharp and crisp. The brown paint on the hilt has mostly worn away, as it did not really stick well to the aluminum. The tsuba is the plain style utilized on NCO swords. I would recommend you check with your original person who raised the concern about it's originality. There is a suspicion that this is a fake.

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