The engine ran smoother and quieter, almost silent at idle. This is generally regarded as good stuff, that our friendly 80 octane had. Re: Mystery Oil Substitute? Like PB Blaster, Kano Kroil also loosens frozen parts faster from metals than any other penetrating oils. I use MMO to store my model airplane engines. How many of us taxi at this RPM? erosion incidents, reported on some lower compression engines. Detroit girl, 11, is left with brain trauma and staples in her head after child abuser teacher threw metal hockey stick at her. This is a fuel additive specifically designed to the fourth is a tank of av-gas (100LL) Either of these work OK. Marvel Mystery Oil has a place and a use in today world for a wide variety of equipment. Which brings up an interesting topic: yes most mass production engines under about 10:1 compression and 4" bore (see "flame propagation rates") are reasonably safe under light duty on 93 PON. Sorry if this has been discussed before (I know it has been). All your true octane booster that do any thing are toxic , highly toxic , which why they took them out of gasoline and will not sell you any . Marvel Mystery Oil. Regular use can improve fuel economy. story, there's no alcohol in the fuel when it comes ashore at Portland, But the Marvel Mystery Oil helps prevent this from happening. Looks like the 185 hp version was used in larger straight trucks. Tricresyl phosphate, an antiwear and extreme pressure additive in lubricants 0.1-1.0%[2] Born in Chicago in 1923, Marvel Mystery Oil was developed to combat deposits on carburetors caused by poorly refined gasoline of the age. I do know it will help when lifters start to be lazy and Oct 11, 2006 . Works OK in modern fuel injected engines , not so well in old carburetor-ed engines, as they also use too much ethanol in the gas. Last edited: Mar 24, 2011 My wife said no FJ! Tricresyl phosphate, an antiwear and extreme pressure additive in lubricants 0.1-1.0%[2], According to the company's 2015 safety data sheet Marvel Mystery Oil is composed of:[2], Petroleum Distillates (Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic) also known as mineral oil, 60-100%[2] sebastian seymour, lord seymour Reply to this topic . So either don't worry about it or fit a tin canister just to be sure And for those about to post that I don't know what I'm talking about, that it is 'snake oil', save your breath. sodly I had to study more of it than I wanted to in chemistry (which was never my favorite subject - but who knew it would have some practical use???) The 'lead replacement petrol' wasn't doing any good at all. The nonsense about "cushioning valves" and "preventing valve seat recession" was contrived by the oil companies in the face of the changeover to unleaded fuel. Marvel MM13R Mystery Oil - 32 oz. Three grand for the car and three grand for the engine. Valves on 327 engines have aluminized faces to retard the formation of deposits, thereby increasing valve life and reducing maintenance requirements. Some will make it to the screen, but I use Marvel in the fuel in my A.C. WD-45 tractor. I don't see any pickle. That's probably more than you wanted to know about benzene - and I don't know why I remembered it. Login; Register; Espaol. LRDaum. for every 10 gallons of gasoline. valves and guides to mess up your engine. lead build up and fouling of spark plugs, along with valve Marvel Mystery Oil helps unleash maximum power and performance while extending engine life. I know this has been talked about before but I didn't see any information specifically about original, un-modified engines-- ones that haven't had hardened valve seats put in like mine. I'm not sure there are any Lead additives anymore, anyway it is illegal to use leaded fuel on any vehicle driven on a public road, street, HWY, Motorway, or FWY. However, it turned out later on that the fears were overblown. Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by lucky6600, Dec 1, 2010. an answer for you. Another way is to run about three tanks of mo-gas and Marvel Mystery oil Marvel Mystery oil. So after a year or two, the STCs When valves are beginning to stick, it will I've used both additives in vehicles ranging from a 69 GTO to a 99 Grand Marquis and have never had any complaints about either one. This additive also enhances the vehicles fuel economy and minimizes the noise produced by the fuel injectors. And the mogas smelled! MY 86 CJ-7 NEEDED THE HEAD GASKET REPLACED. Not those other engines that were not really for the sans coulottes often had unusual ratings. I do the same for the '65 Corvair, '37 Buick Roadmaster, and '88 Corvette. If you want your engine to last as long as possible add a little Marvel Mystery Oil, Bardahl, Redex or your favorite upper cylinder lubricant to the gas. which again left me at the far end of the runway without power. Like several other similar products that date back several decades Marvel Mystery Oil seems to be a legitimate detergent additive that will reduce varnish and gumming in an engine. Marvel Mystery Lubricating Oil is safe for catalytic converters and oxygen sensors. Definitely not a Corvette motor. Maybe so but I got yelled at by the station attendant when I tried it. Thanks, PFitz. Go to your local race track with a 5 gallon can and buy some 110 or 120 leaded race gas from the guy that has some barrels in his pick up somewhere in the pits.. $10 - $15 per gallon. They said that it caused oil leak in his Chevy Silverado 2004. 72 octane is the highest grade of gasoline that can be To go into more detail, the mechanic who advised me to use it said it would dissolve varnish and gunk, free up rings, etc. LOL. As a moderately priced precaution, I add 4 oz of Marvel Mystery Oil, and 1 oz of Alemite CD-2 for each 10 gallons of gas. So in the end nothing is needed. As far as the induction hardenning, Where is that info from? Well, I've been using MMO for many years now, along with Rislone. I follow Bob's article by my own It was soon discovered that it resisted detonation also and was intsrumental in the developement of more powerefull aviation engines during WW1. Could you share with us your experience of using this MMO in the comment box below? The kerosene was what made it effective with the first hydraulic valve lifters . The popular theory is that the MM oil acts as a vapor blast and keeps carbon and lead deposits soft and passing through the exhaust valve rather than adhering to the valve, seat, or guide. Are available for most engines now and should be considered whenever a head come off. everyone was looking for a lead substitute in forum. It not only removes carbon deposits and sludge, but also improves cold start lubrication and film strength. install one-half pint MMO. That will be $4500 please.So I put a good dose of MMO in and on the second tank the knock vanished. You have a RPM drop that is excessive, and run the engine But, whileAMC said it could run on the new unleaded gasoline, they said that every forth tankfulshould be leaded gasoline. Required fields are marked *. Pretty sure it didn't require any special fuel back then. from [Permanent Link] To: <spridgets@autox.team.net> Subject: Marvel Mystery Oil and Lead substitute: Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:25:13 -0700: Hi Listers, Our local K-mart is selling out their automotive stuff at 40% off. Sitting around is no good for old cars or the fuel in them. was any particular problem with lead fouling the sparkplugs, but if there It's illegal to use on a public road for the second time! Para Dichlorobenzene, a precursor used in the production of chemically and thermally resistant polymers, <0.1%[2]. But, it will reduce friction making your engine easier to start and run smoother and may even pick up a little extra gas mileage. ATF will do the same thing inside the engine at a lower cost. Then, it fortifies the oil coating, preventing rust from forming inside your engine. Don't listen to them. loosens it up and it goes out the exhaust system. Only thing I can say about that is the oil does not seem to blackenbefore I get home like it normally does. When Marvel Mystery oil is applied, it can dramatically slow down this process. Marvel Mystery Oil MM12R - 16 Fl Oz. With no alcohol in the system, the gasoline stayed fresh through the Just drive it on whatever gas comes out of the pump at your local gas station. Marvel Mystery oil and Seafoam are equally excellent products. I don't remember hearinganything about valve seat recession from the mechanics I hung around with,. including the guys who did marine engine rebuilding, fire departmentcompetition trucks,and race engines. It is safe for catalytic converters if used according to directions on the bottle or can. I don't think there Smokes like late freight or a Ridley Scott film. All kinds of power that I didn't have before. It's mostly mineralspirits with some light oil, red die and fragrance added. It was at this time the government (EPA) started talks about banning it, that actually happened in 1996 although living in Los Angeles county leaded fuel was essentially gone by 1980. Charles Kettering discovered that lead would boost octane in the 1930s, and it was cheap, plentiful, and easy to add to fuel so there it was. In addition, Marvel Mystery oil helps you to avoid unnecessary rubber parts repairs or replacements. It's probably similar to an ashless oil (think 2-cycle oil). They also got mogas STCs for the airport's fleet of Cubs and other Marvel Mystery Oil can be used as a fuel and oil additive. there's some xylene in there, too. I think perhaps time to add some to this computer.. Matt is worried about ruining the Wag's engine - I told him to just run gas in it. Add To Fuel To Clean Engines And Increase Gas Mileages. I HIGHLY recommend this product.-----Greg. Aluminized valve faces on the 283 engine with applications in the 50 series trucks slow the formation of deposits, keep valves cleaner and longer-lived. Neither should be used for the first time It will double the life of rings and valves. Your email address will not be published. line off the carburetor, hook up a tube, and run Mystery Oil Welcome to America, 2019, where everything is true and not true at the same time depending on what you already want to believe. Use the directions on the back for amount to put in the fuel per Suddenly the valve seats started to wear away again. This oil was very useful in older aircraft engines to scavenge lead deposits. experience with mogas and, finally, by an email from Terry Lutz, expanding Low HP cars are doing these grades in low gears barely making 40MPH. avoided in the smaller and older engines. and that was far too often for my taste. The advantages of this additive are described in full below: This is an absolute must-have product if you wish to keep the internal components of your engine clean. Lower vapor pressures reduce emmisions of VOC in storage facilities and fuel tanks and fuels with high vapor pressures are not needed in modern high pressure fuel delivery systems. Where did you get your information. If you're only driving it a few hundred miles a year, it'll outlast your great-great-grandchildren. Cleaning firearms with Marvel Mystery Oil? either place it will be removed at oil change. Hard seats are added to earlier heads by machining out the old seats and installing an insert. However we are addressing two totally different problems. Most pump gas runners I know only add lead substitute, not any MMO. It's more cleaner than oil. It was used to scavenge trace and unburned particles out of the fuel after combustion. Sign up for a new account in our community. With Marvel Mystery oil, you dont have to worry about your oil thickening at low temperatures. Old standbys like Bardahl. decide". AMC switched to induction hardened valve seats a little later then the other manufacturers. It looks like you're new here. Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 Next > lucky6600, Dec 1, 2010 #1. lucky6600 Long timer. named Rick told me that TCP stands for Tri-Cresyl-Phosphate. Wether you use it right before a change, to replace a quart of oil, or just use it in the fuel tank is a matter of preference and I'm sure wont' hurt a thing used any of these ways. In the 60's Amoco gasolines were unleaded and generally cost a few cents more. That said, additives probably can't hurt and if they make you feel better/safer when driving the truck, then you should use them. No problems. Regularly adding this additive to your fuel tank can increase your cars fuel mileage, eliminate carbon deposits, clean your engine and fuel system, etc. At your next oil change, replace 20% of your engine oil (traditional or synthetic) with Marvel Mystery Oil or Marvel Ultimate Oil. What power steering fluid is compatible with 89021184? These are all question. These long and hard grades some at over 7% especially in summertime heat will really pound seats out if doing it on a daily basis. These fuel and oil additives are designed to clean away deposits, sludge, and fuel residues from the engine and keep it running smoothly. needed to go around again. The mileage appears to be 34,000. There the Warbird's Forum I hear a lot of disagreement about the need to run lead-substitute or lead additive in older engines. mogas. I Timothy 3:16. This is generally regarded as good stuff, and a lot of people are using it. Car was his first love and passion. there are two STCs on the market for mo-gas, EAA and Petersen. The automotive gasoline option. Okay, thats not a trick subject line. People use Marvel Mystery Airtool oil. Then some guy tells him that 2-stroke oil like he uses in his chainsaws would be just as good or better -- and maybe cheaper too. My 10.25:1 400 is kinda marginal so I add something mainly for my peace of mind. I think this gas additive hypeis more a necessity for sales thanbased on any actual need for protecting the engine. July 9, 2019 in General Discussion. You aren't driving your truck for racing (drag or track), pounding up steep hills day after day or abusing it in any way. However, nowhere on their website, nor in any information I have seen, is the claim that it can replace lead substitutes. Thank you. you might want to try some ZDDP ( zink) the new oils don't have enough zi nk for the old motors..search it on goggle for more info.